tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post4832928963172464898..comments2023-11-15T15:11:00.318-05:00Comments on Zandar Versus The Stupid: The Damage Caused By Fragile EgosZandarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00396826133150556766noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-66443859803760401642014-05-27T03:09:37.480-04:002014-05-27T03:09:37.480-04:00I stand ready to invoke the 24 hour rule that has ...I stand ready to invoke the 24 hour rule that has proven so apt in dealing with Greenwald's sensationalist claims in the past. Past performance may not be a reliable guide to future performance, but Pernicious G has always delivered.Horace Boothroyd IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-6976037894461456192014-05-27T03:06:48.861-04:002014-05-27T03:06:48.861-04:00Must be hard to talk with your tongue so far up Gr...Must be hard to talk with your tongue so far up Greenwald's sphincter.<br /><br />And his butt cheeks must have been covering your ears so you never heard how the Russians were able to spoof our signals intelligence in the run up to the occupation of the Ukraine. Maybe it's a great big dumb coincidence, that the Russian secret services had figured ways to blanket all of our methods and they just happened to spring them on us after Snowden settled in to Moscow, and since you trust Greenwald you are probably dumb enough to believe that fairy tale.<br /><br />Me, I deal with reality: the facts as they are, not as I would like them to be. The sad fact is that you bubble boys, with your gullibility and your hysteria, have ruined for a generation any chance of meaningful reforms in the National Security State. Bush and Clapper are laughing their asses off at you and your stupid pretenses.<br /><br />So enjoy your continuing irrelevance. Maybe you can get the old gang together and draft Nader for another spoiler campaign aimed at throwing the elections to the Republicans. It would be just like old times.Horace Boothroyd IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-31882259323703881852014-05-26T22:02:40.952-04:002014-05-26T22:02:40.952-04:00And the best part is Greenwald can name any person...And the best part is Greenwald can name any person or organization in America and he wins because of course, nobody can "prove" he's bullshitting us. Just in time for his new book, too!Zandarhttp://zandarvts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-23557572903472801522014-05-26T21:44:45.113-04:002014-05-26T21:44:45.113-04:00Oh, and to end this debate once and for all, Green...Oh, and to end this debate once and for all, <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/05/26/greenwalds_finale_naming_victims_of_surveillance_122747.html" rel="nofollow">Greenwald plans to release names of American people and organizations the NSA spied on illegally</a>. There will no longer be any doubt as to who the real victims of the US government really are: its own citizens.<br /><br />But please tell me again how the real problem here is "fragile egos" of whistleblowers and not a government actively spying against its own people in order to keep them in line.A Citizennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-34147759354537097592014-05-26T20:18:37.112-04:002014-05-26T20:18:37.112-04:00The WH did more damage to our intelligence agencie...The WH did more damage to our intelligence agencies in Afghanistan by <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/white-house-mistakenly-identifies-cia-chief-in-afghanistan/2014/05/25/ac8e80cc-e444-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html" rel="nofollow">blowing the cover of the CIA station chief in Kabul</a> than Edward Snowden has or ever will have done exposing any document.<br /><br />That must be hard for all of you to swallow. Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald are not the problems here. The NSA is.A Citizennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-61334546161140479562014-05-26T19:33:18.055-04:002014-05-26T19:33:18.055-04:00I am with you all the way on this one. My ire at ...I am with you all the way on this one. My ire at Pernicious G is not driven by any foofery that he is an unpleasant person, contra Charles Pierce and the sycophantic "woudn't want to invite Glenn to tea" crowd, but is driven by my disgust that his pointless sensationalism and exaggerations have abraded away any popular support that might have gathered to force the politicos to pass real and significant reform legislation. What we got last week was a joke, and it represents the squandering of all hopes for yet another generation at reining in the National Security State.<br /><br />That said, I do admit to a great deal of amusement at seeing Team Treason being just as pissy, spiteful, and short sighted when swatting away the ankle biters of the technolibertarian "dump all the documents now!" crowd as he is when dealing with normal people.Horace Boothroyd IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150494391278881634.post-37968892239975495512014-05-25T19:55:53.304-04:002014-05-25T19:55:53.304-04:00That's why I can't get on the "ZOMG!!...That's why I can't get on the "ZOMG!! NSA EEEEEEVUL!!!! SNOWDEN GREENWALD ROKK!!!!1!11!!" bandwagon that many on the left (and in the techerati strongholds like Slashdot) are riding. I'm not happy about the NSA's data gathering practices and I wish they would be severely curtailed (or eliminated entirely), but I simply cannot treat Snowden, Assange, and "It's All About Me" Greenwald like heroes who deserve sainthood, for the very reasons you state.Martin Pollardnoreply@blogger.com