Bank Watch

Three more banks closed by the FDIC this week, now 9 banks gone this year, 33 since January 2008.

Three banks, two in California and one in Georgia, were seized by regulators, bringing this year’s tally of closings to nine as a recession and record foreclosures extend the biggest financial crisis in more than 70 years.

County Bank of Merced, California, with deposits of $1.3 billion and assets of $1.7 billion, was shut yesterday by the state’s Department of Financial Institutions, according to an e-mailed statement from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Westamerica Bancorporation, holding company for Westamerica Bank, acquired all the assets and deposits.

The Georgia Department of Banking and Finance closed McDonough-based FirstBank Financial Services Inc., which had $337 million in assets and $279 million in deposits as of Dec. 31, the FDIC said in a statement. The California Department of Financial Institutions shut Culver City-based Alliance Bank, with assets of $1.14 billion and $951 million in deposits.

The FDIC was named receiver of the institutions, which will resume business as branches of the acquiring banks. Regulators seized six banks in January, the largest monthly toll since 1993, including Salt Lake City-based MagnetBank, which the FDIC closed Jan. 30 after being unable to find a buyer. The FDIC shuttered 25 banks last year, matching the total for 2001 through 2007.

The FDIC, other U.S. bank regulators and Congress are taking steps to help banks avoid losses as the administration of President Barack Obama readies a stimulus package that may include guarantees for toxic assets, according to people familiar with the plan.

Three last week, too. Pretty soon this is going to start adding up, folks. When that adding up gets to "more than the FDIC has in its fund for covering bank failures", Obama's going to have to address it.

The Thunder Rolls

I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I'll say it again: The GOP must destroy America's economy by any means necessary in order to regain political power. How quickly America has forgotten that when Democrats raised the idea of a stimulus plan eight months ago, the GOP laughed and said our economy was fine. They killed it in the House. Bush immediately threatened a veto saying there was no need for it because our economy was the strongest it had ever been.

But now, these same Republicans are the ones taken seriously by the Village, while the "clueless liberals" and "inexperienced President" fumble around while the "brave GOP insurgency" kicks into action blocking more stimulus. The Democrats have been rolled again, and this time it's going to cost millions and millions of us our jobs, our health insurance, our livelihoods, our way of life, many of our freedoms and eventually our country.

It starts by assuring the stimulus package fails, it continues with the shifting of blame to Obama, it ends with the Village writing the narrative. The GOP control of the Village got us into two wars, it got us into this mess in the first place, and soon it will get us into a full-blown economic depression.

Then the fun really begins. Then the real long knives will come out for Obama and the Democrats. The Village and the hatemongers on the right will see to that. They will come for Obama with blood in their eye, folks. You thought they did a number on The Hick From Hope, Arkansas? You thought they did a number on The Jawja Peanut Farmah? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Well, some of you have. Back in November, 1963 in Dallas. Back in April, 1968 in Memphis. Back in June, 1968 in Los Angeles.

The storm is coming, folks. America is going to be a much different country in just a few short years. I've been talking about worst case scenarios now for over a year both at the Frog Pond and now at my own place, and I just do not see this game of chess playing out in a way where the good guys win.

In fact, I see chess pieces on both sides of the battle turning on the Black King. "Shat mat", the Persians said when they won this game they invented thousands of years ago..."The King is dead."

We get the term "checkmate" from that phrase.

Checkmate is all but upon us now. Mate in 6 moves? Mate in 8? Mate in 2?

In the end, you still lose.

Kroog On Centrists

Another cheerful bit of analysis from the Kroog.

My first cut says that the changes to the Senate bill will ensure that we have at least 600,000 fewer Americans employed over the next two years.

The real question now is whether Obama will be able to come back for more once it’s clear that the plan is way inadequate. My guess is no. This is really,really bad.

Hahaha, back for more? By the time it's clear we need more spending, the GOP already will have pinned the Pelosi/Obama/Reid Recession Depression squarely on this bill for having spent government money in the first place. That is the plan all along, to assure whatever passes is far too weak to slow our descent and then scream bloody murder at the Democrats for wanting to spend more when it becomes painfully clear this weak-ass bill isn't nearly enough.

Still Unable To Comprehend The Problem

Arizona Republican Jon Kyl on the stimulus bill:

"If you knew a bill in the U.S. Senate would cause a recession in 10 years, would you support it?" asked Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona. "That's what the Congressional Budget Office, the bipartisan office that supports our efforts in the Congress, says about this legislation. ... There will be negative [gross domestic product] in this decade as a result of this legislation."

In which case I have a couple things to say to the Distiguished Asshole from Arizona.

1. Yes...the CBO report says we'll suffer negative point three percent growth in 2019. Worst case scenario if we fail to do anything about the debt in ten years. Also, the CBO report says the stimulus will in fact add millions of jobs.
   
2. We're already IN a recession NOW, you moron.
   
3. The last time we were in a recession, we tried your way: massive tax and interest rate cuts and got a housing collapse, a much worse recession, and a near collapse of the financial system in just five years, not ten.
4. You're a moron. Still.
   

Ergo, shut the hell up.

Picking Sides

The first real test of the Obama administration's new foreign policy comes as India's ruling party is demanding the international community declare Pakistan a terrorist state.

India's Congress Party on Saturday said the international community should consider declaring Pakistan a terrorist state in light of the latter's release of a scientist who sold nuclear secrets around the globe.

"It is time for the international community to think whether to declare Pakistan a terrorist country," Manish Tewari, the Congress party spokesman said in New Delhi, in reference to the end from house arrest of Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

India's Congress Party rules in a coalition, and the call to the world community was from the party, not from the Indian government.

Khan, the man at the center of the world' most serious nuclear proliferation scandal, was released Friday after five years of house arrest.

This is a pretty ugly situation here. Obama cannot allow Pakistan to be labeled an international terrorist state, having been an ally of the US. At the same time, he cannot afford to alienate India's ruling party, either.

But, the Indian Congress Party has a valid point: Pakistan's A.Q. Khan is a both serious and proven nuclear proliferation threat, and with Pakistan turning him loose after Mumbai, the Indians have every right to be nervous. Pakistan is a major problem, and eventually Obama is going to have to pick a side: India or Pakistan.

Yes, this may be campaign rhetoric for the ruling party as elections in India are approaching. But, India's concerns are valid. We'll see how Hillary handles this one.

Let Slip The Wingnuts Of War

Meanwhile, today's news that the stimulus actually has some Republican votes in the Senate has thrown the Wingnuts into a frothing madness. They have decided to take down any Republican who dares vote for this.

Spector is done, and so is any other Republican that votes for this bill. We will mass opposition against any further run for office against any traitor to the party, who in spite of overwhelming constituency disgust, continue to side with socialist democrats.

I am calling on all true conservative bloggers to take a stand and help me ensure that these RINOS do not get reelected to office and to further help support true conservatives to take their place.

Yes, because the best thing possible to do about America hemorrhaging 500,000 jobs a month is oppose anything but tax cuts and blame the Democrat in the White House for the last 2.5 weeks eight years after he destroyed this country!



It's time to rise up against our Democrat oppressors! WOLVEREEEEEEEEEEENS!

The Already Failed Obama Presidency Continues

Newtie and Sam Donaldson are already explaining how President Obama Carter has been unable to lift America's malaise after two and a half weeks and has failed America.

"Reagan would never have allowed himself that level of partisanship and that kind of aggressiveness in that kind of setting," said Gingrich. "So you could either have a strategy that says, 'I'm going to go over and I'm going to be bipartisan and I'm going to prove it and here's how I'm going to it. In which he case he wouldn't have gone down last night. He would, in fact, have invited Pelosi and Boehner and he would have invited Reid and McConnell down to the White House to collectively hammer out the bipartisan compromise. That's one strategy. Or there's the strategy … that's perfectly reasonable, that says, 'I won, we won and we're running over you but we're going to deliver. … What he's doing now is Carter-ism because he's trying to live out both strategies and you gotta figure out which morning it is by which strategy he's using today. And what that will do is totally clutter who he is."

Panelist Sam Donaldson of ABC News agreed with some of Gingrich's critiques.

"He's making the mistake of not knowing how this town works,” said Donaldson. “He hasn't dealt with Congress well.”

“I think President Obama has not yet demonstrated the kind of leadership Reagan demonstrated time and time again with a smile, affability,” he added. “He hasn't found his sea legs yet and I don't know whether he will or not."

Obama's not Reagan, and being a former Senator he has no clue how Washington works. Very un-Presidential! And Michael Steele is hot on the trail, pointing out how after an interminable 18 days the power-mad Democrats have destroyed this country with their Spendulus Bill.

The Democrats have controlled the Congress and the White House for less than a month, the chairman of the Republican Party says, "and you have to wonder if all that power has gone to their heads...

""For the last two weeks, they've been trying to force a massive spending bill through Congress under the guise of economic relief,'' Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee, says in a Saturday address.

The address comes on a day in which the Senate is debating a compromise economic stimulus that negotiators from both parties have produced - but the Republicans don't appear too enamored with it. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is saying today that the agreement looks more like $827 billion than the $780 billion that negotiators have represented. Add interest costs, he complains, and it's still $1 trillion.

The GOP is still promoting tax cuts as the solution.

"All of us - Republicans and Democrats - agree the government must act to kick-start the American economy. American families are doing their best to balance their own budgets and pay their mortgages,'' Steele says. ""The fastest way to help those families is by letting them keep more of the money they earn. Individual empowerment: that's how you stimulate the economy.''

The GOP is winning this game by leaps and bounds. Democrats will never get any respect unless they start demanding it...because in the eyes of the Village, they'll never earn it. Nobody in the Village is calling the GOP out on this idiotic behavior because the Village is part and parcel of it. They're the ones saying Obama hasn't shown any leadership yet and never will. Your liberal media is doing this.

How long before the word "impeachment" is uttered? Seriously? The Republicans will always run this country as long as the Democrats let the Village get away with it.

I'm Just A Bill

The stimulus bill will go to a Senate vote on Tuesday. If it passes, the real work begins: reconciling it with the House version for another set of votes as BooMan explains.

Congressional procedure is painfully opaque. It's difficult for me to determine Senate procedure on a conference committee report and that is making it hard for me to predict what is going to happen next on the stimulus bill. So, let me lay out what I know and also what I'm not sure about.

The House passed their stimulus bill a couple of weeks ago. It was a good bill and would have made a fine final product. It cost about $820 billion. The Senate has made numerous amendments to the House bill. Some of those amendments were good, like adding a lot of money for the National Institute of Health. Others were not so good, like stripping out a lot of education spending. In the end, however, the bills will both wind up costing around $820 billion. The big difference is that the Senate version includes $70 billion to address the Alternative Minimum Tax issue. So, the Senate version has roughly $70 billion more in tax cuts and roughly $70 billion less in direct stimulative spending. I think almost all economists would agree that the House version is better, but neither of them will become law.

What happens now is that the House and Senate will elect conferees who will meet together in a conference committee. They will work together to make one piece of legislation that both houses can support. And then those bills will go back to each house for a final vote.

So honestly, who knows. Obama wants this thing on his desk by the President's Day holiday a week from Monday, but the odds of that seem lower and lower daily to me. The GOP will want to stall this as long as possible before not voting for it, and quite possibly another round of negotiations may take place after the vote magically fails on Tuesday (with Harry Reid, you never know.)

Meanwhile, Americans have been losing their jobs at roughly the rate of 125,000 a week now for the last five months straight, so clearly we must take as much time as possible in order to make sure the stimulus has enough tax cuts.

Idiots.

StupidiNews, Weekend Edition

• Vice President Joe Biden gives his first major speech in Munich on foreign policy.
• New RNC chair Michael Steele is facing a federal fraud probe.
• Rural Kentuckians are still struggling after last week's ice storm.
• The IMF says several world economies are already in a depression...including the US.
• Just 10 online registrars are responsible for 83% of the world's spam.

Last Call

What Digby Said.

Hardball is reporting that the new bill is 42% tax cuts now and 58% spending, which is considered a big win for Republicans.

And they are still fighting it.

And when it finally comes to the floor, they won't vote for it anyway.

That's how a truly ruthless opposition party works. They ruin the legislation, are lauded as winners for ruining the legislation and then vote against the legislation that they ruined. Awesome.

Roughly the same proportion as Republicans to Democrats in the Senate. Or, after the Very Sensible Centrists hack off a couple billion here or there and replace it with some more Sensible Tax Cuts, they can easily get the bill to the same 54%-46% ratio as Obama's win over McCain...the basis of Rush Limbaugh's "plan" for the "bi-partisan stimulus bill" he demanded last week in the Wall Street Journal. And of course, El Rushbo will take this bill, meeting the standards he set out on January 29, and then declare the bill the worst thing since Hitler and any Republican voting for it the worst since Neville Chamberlain.

And I call it a night, knowing that as Digby said the Republicans will vote against it almost across the board in the Senate, will vote unanimously against it in the House, and declare that now Pelosi/Obama/Reid now 100% own the Pelosi/Obama/Reid recession.

Because after all, the economic genius that was closest to guessing the plan that will save America's economy is Rush Fucking Limbaugh, who does not run the GOP, the Village Media, the Democrats, or the entire country.

G'night, folks.

What's At Stake Here

(Courtesy Sadly, No!)

So, took 32 months to recover the jobs lost from the 1990 recession, and 22 months before the recovery actually began. That's the blue line.

It took almost into Bush's second term before jobs recovered in the 2001 recession, and a full four years to recover those jobs. That's Mr. Red Line.

That green line there? That's us since December 2007. We've already lost 3.6 million jobs in 13 months. A full 2.6 million of those came in the last 5 months alone.

You think we need some real help here?

PS, you want to know why this is getting worse and will not get any better soon? Because the Republicans are already blaming this recession on the Democrats.

The economy began to collapse when the Democrats captured the House and Senate and we then knew that the lower tax rates on individuals, capital gains, and dividends would end after 2010.

We are in the early stages of the Reid/Obama/Pelosi recession and nothing they are even talking about doing will help.

Yes, that's good old Grover Norquist calling this the Reid/Obama/Pelosi Recession.

Do you believe me now that there is no chance for bipartisanship? Do you believe me now that the entire GOP plan is to make sure the economy is destroyed and the Democrats get the blame for it?

[UPDATE] And finally, we have GOP strategist Alex Castellanos laying out the plan (h/t AmericaBlog)

Bipartisanship is indeed for wussies. You can't negotiate in good faith when the other side has no intention of doing so.

It's Disturbing As Hell Because It's True

Over at Iggy's place, Brian Beutler explains the differences between Republicans and Democrats.

Imagine an alternate reality in which the economy is in fine shape and Barack Obama’s just been elected president. Perhaps he’d go hog wild and propose a trillion dollars in unfunded spending just to sneak a bunch of liberal wish list items on to the government debt ledger. But I don’t really think so. And I don’t think Ross does either. Maybe I’m crazy, but I think it’s much more likely that under kinder circumstances Obama would carry forward with the plan he campaigned on–to let the Bush tax cuts expire, tackle the energy, climate and health crises and, maybe, give the middle class a tax cut. That, of course, was before the economy started shedding 600,000 jobs a month, but it made some sense at the time. Just as Jon suggested.

Now imagine Barack Obama is a Republican. He’s just been elected and the economy is in the toilet. What’s his answer? Tax cuts for the rich! What if the economy’s in decent shape? Tax cuts for the rich! What if we’d just been invaded by China, Canada, and Mexico, and alien space craft were hovering over Manhattan, Los Angeles, and Washington, D.C.? Tax cuts for the rich!

And that pretty well sums it up.

Bizarro! Bizarro! Bizarro!

Peggy Noonan in today's WSJ:

Then four things: Nancy Pelosi served up old-style pork, Mr. Obama swallowed it, Republicans shocked themselves by being serious, and then they startled themselves by being unified. But it was their seriousness that was most important: They didn't know they were! They hadn't been in years!

Yes, the Republicans are suddenly serious. They are far more serious than the hated, unserious, pot-smoking filthy hippy Hollywood Democrats.

Republicans like Jim DeMint, whose brilliant, serious idea for the bill included nothing but tax cuts...and 36 of the 40 Republicans in the Senate voted for the idea. Even better, he seriously attacks the bill for a 46 year old Federal higher education provision over the fact somebody on his staff read the bill incorrectly. He's serious.

Republicans like Mitch McConnell, whose main argument against the stimulus is the fact there have been less than one million weeks over the last 2,008 years (in fact there's roughly 104,421 weeks between then and now.) Eminently serious.

Republicans like Lindsey Graham, whose argument (obtained while giving interviews to the press) is that Barack Obama has failed America by giving interviews to the press. Terribly serious.

Republicans like John McCain, whose complaints about the stimulus package are that the stimulus package contains things like "spending" and "tax cuts". Serious as a heart attack.

Republicans like James Inhofe, who figures the stimulus bill would employ 15,000 in his home state of Oklahoma, only he can't support the bill because it's "too bloated." Mega-serious.

Yes, the Republicans are serious, alright. Seriously demented, seriously deluded, and seriously wrong.

Why Things Might Be Wrong With Our Economy

Today's lesson:

1. Economy loses 600,000 jobs in one month, therefore
   
2. Wall Street rallies with the Dow up 200 plus points, because of
   
3. The sheer anticipation of craploads of free gubment money due to
4. See #1.
   

Here endeth the lesson.

Point Of Order, Mr. President

Obama laid into Republican critics last night at a meeting of House Democrats in Virginia.

President Obama veered away from his repeated calls for bipartisanship on Thursday night, laying into Republican opponents of his massive stimulus package before a wildly enthusiastic audience of House Democrats.

“This package is not going to be absolutely perfect,” the president told more than 200 House members gathered here for their annual policy conference. “You can nit it. You can pick. That’s the game we play here. But we can’t afford to play that game now,” he said to loud cheers.

Coming into the first day of the three-day policy conference, some House members fretted that Obama and Democratic congressional leaders weren’t doing enough to combat Republicans who claim the $819 billion package (HR 1) passed by the House two weeks ago contains too much wasteful federal spending and not enough in job-stimulating tax cuts.

Laying into the critics, Obama said, “They say this isn’t a stimulus bill. It’s a spending bill. Well, that’s the whole point.” He rarely used the word “Republican.”

Now. The good news is, Obama's going on the offensive. Even The Kroog sees this is a good idea.

It’s time for Mr. Obama to go on the offensive. Above all, he must not shy away from pointing out that those who stand in the way of his plan, in the name of a discredited economic philosophy, are putting the nation’s future at risk. The American economy is on the edge of catastrophe, and much of the Republican Party is trying to push it over that edge.

But as The Kroog points out, it's that last part of the President's statement I have a problem with. This isn't s spending bill, Mr. President. it's a "save the f'cking economy from the Second Great Depression" bill, sir.

You might want to keep that in mind. Redefine the argument away from spending vs tax cuts altogether. Use those January job numbers and hammer it into both sides that the goal of this bill is, quite frankly, to keep us ending up from a much worse situation.

In other words, in that Monday press conference, level with the American people. If we're still fighting over spending vs. tax cuts, we're losing sight of the fact the GOP is trying to wreck the fracking economy over political power games.

Call them out on it. Daily.

Man I Hate Being Right

I called 600k jobs lost, official numbers 598k, U3 figure up to 7.6% and climbing. The U-6 numbers are goddamn frightening in particular, showing a seasonally adjusted rate of 13.9% (which is bad) but a non-seasonally adjusted U-6 number of ->15.4%<- of the workforce out of work or underemployed. The difference between the two is awesome, in every epic sense of that word. It's overwhelming. What it means is if you remove seasonal hiring and yearly adjustments, our economy is in far worse shape than imagined.

That's a nearly 2% jump in One. F'ckin'. Month. Take out the seasonal adjustments for January and the U-3 is a staggering 8.5% right now.

We are in an inordinate amount of trouble right now. 2.5 million net jobs have been lost in the last five months. There is no sign whatsoever that this is going to slow down.

The U-6 numbers in the last 12 months have gone from 9.9% to 15.4%. A five point jump in unemployment in one year. That hasn't happened since the 1930's.

Crunch time is now here. We're playing for the difference between deep recession and major depression, and the clock's ticking now. As it is...we may be too late. These numbers, if they continue, will mean by January 2010 we could very well be looking at the 20% U-6 numbers I predicted.

Cheery thought, huh.

Please Check Your Lottery Ticket Numbers Today

...because for the first time I can remember, I agree with freakin' Larry Kudlow on something. That something is Tim Geithner has to go. Now.

Americans do not want tax cheats and tax dodgers in critical leadership positions. Tom Daschle tendered his resignation to become HHS secretary over this same issue. So did another high-profile nominee — Nancy Killefer — in the budget office. Mr. Daschle himself said that he doesn’t have the trust or confidence of the people to lead the nation on healthcare reform.

This is not personal. Geithner has good qualifications. But he is wrong on this key issue. I think most Americans know that. Mr. Geithner should give some serious thought to this.

I continue to beat this drum. I continue to believe that Timothy Geithner should resign as an act of conscience, confidence, and good faith. He has forfeited the trust invested in him. He cannot lead us through financial reform.

I disagree with Kudlow that Geithner is in any way qualified to lead us out of this financial mess. As NY Fed chief, he's responsible for, among other things, designing a plan to overpay tens of billions for bank assets under the first half of TARP. That responsibility falls on Helicopter Ben as well, and he absolutely needs to step down.

But Kudlow's last sentence is 100% true. Tim Geithner cannot lead us through financial reform whatsoever. He's part of the team that already has shown no ability to make the hard, hard decisions that are needed at this point in history. He has already been tested and been found wanting. It's time to clean house at Treasury starting with Geithner.

Remember that when the January job loss numbers come out here at 8:30 AM. At the very least another half a million people lost their jobs last month. I'm betting it'll be close to 600k.

We'll see.

StupidiNews!

• Parts of China are facing the worst drought conditions in 50 years.
• Karl Rove now says he will not cooperate with congressional subpoenas.
• Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has surgery to treat her pancreatic cancer.
• The TARP oversight committee says the government wasted $78 billion on overpriced bank assets.
• Are bioscience and robotics advances causing us to become "Homo Evolutis"?

Yet More Stimulus And Response

Harry Reid says the Dems now have the votes to pass the stimulus bill.

Senators working to craft a massive U.S. economic stimulus package said on Thursday they had agreed it should be close to the $800 billion wanted by President Barack Obama, and Senate leader Harry Reid said he believed he had the votes to pass it.

Moderate Democratic and Republican senators, seeking to bolster support for a compromise, agreed to cut the package from some $900 billion after pressure from Republicans who said it was too high and included non-essential projects.

Reid told reporters he expected a full Senate vote on the measure later in the day and that it would pass. "We hope to have the vote today," he said. "Do we have the votes? We believe we do. We believe we can find two Republicans of good will."

The Republicans are now in full crisis mode as they look for the "traitors to humanity" who will resist the inevitable filibuster. One of them is Maine's Susan Collins, but the Dems will need at least one more Republican to get this done. The House will pass whatever the Senate passes, and Obama could be signing this into law next week.

Or it could all come apart.

[UPDATE] Turns out Harry Reid doesn't have the votes after all, and has called it quits for the night. Who knows at this point.

WOLVEREEEEEEEEEEENS!

Yeah, the GOP is delusional. Once again they believe they are the brave insurgents protecting America from the evil Democratic Socialism onslaught.

No, really.

Frustrated by a lack of bipartisan outreach from House Democratic leaders, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said House Republicans -- who voted unanimously last week against the economic plan pushed by President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- will pitch a "positive, loyal opposition" to the proposal. The group, he added, should also "understand insurgency" in implementing efforts to offer alternatives.

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban," Sessions said during a meeting yesterday with Hotline editors. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

That agreement, as Sessions described it, involved a promise from Pelosi to preside over an "open, honest, ethical Congress." Obama, Sessions added, has pledged to diminish the political rhetoric in Washington and work in a bipartisan fashion.

"If they do not give us those options or opportunities then we will then become insurgency of a nature to where we do those things that are necessary to making sure the American public knows what we think the correct answer is," Sessions said during the 60-minute interview. "So we either work together, or we're going to find a way to get our message out."

Yeah, insurgents. And they wonder why they lost.

WOLVEREEEEEEEEEENS!