Friday, March 5, 2010

Foldorama On Terror Trials

Obama's throwing in the towel on a civilian trial for KSM in order to get Congress to close Gitmo.
The president's advisers feel increasingly hemmed in by bipartisan opposition to a federal trial in New York and demands, mainly from Republicans, that Mohammed and his accused co-conspirators remain under military jurisdiction, officials said. While Obama has favored trying some terrorism suspects in civilian courts as a symbol of U.S. commitment to the rule of law, critics have said military tribunals are the appropriate venue for those accused of attacking the United States.

If Obama accepts the likely recommendation of his advisers, the White House may be able to secure from Congress the funding and legal authority it needs to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and replace it with a facility within the United States. The administration has failed to meet a self-imposed one-year deadline to close Guantanamo.

The administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said the president's legal advisers are finalizing their review of the cases of Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators. Asked about the process, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that "no decisions have been made."
The price you have to pay for civil liberties for terrorists is...denying terrorists civil liberties. Sure, that's a great deal.

As I've said before and continue to say, Obama's biggest failure has been his expansion of Bush's terror program directives and the adoption of those John Yoo extra-legal methods and specious reasoning. We are now a country that tortures routinely and will always continue to do so.

10 comments:

  1. Try to explain to someone who lost a loved one in 9/11 that we shouldn't waterboard when it has been proven to get information from people. Go ahead and explain to them that "Yes these people want to kill us, not a particular person, just American in general however we won't waterboard them to get information from them"

    We should not be reading Miranda rights to non-US citizens, we should not be giving KSM a platform in which to spew hate and pour salt on the wounds that was 9/11.

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  2. You don't know what you're talking about. The fact is that torture doesn't work, and I don't think you can speak for anyone other than yourself, much less those who lost loved ones on September 11th.

    Why don't you go find a different blog to stink up?

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  3. Really? Is that why repeatedly its been stated that we've gotten valuable information and prevented a terrorist attack with the information gathered via waterboarding

    I think thats

    Me: 1
    Donnah: 0

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  4. Oh but we do agree, torture really doesn't work

    However waterboarding isn't torture. :-)

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  5. Also apparently a lot of Americans agree, at the end of last year 58% of Americans favored waterboarding.

    So I should revise my prior statement:

    American People: 1
    Donnah/Zandar: 0

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  6. Perhaps you should read some statistics and reports to the contrary. Google "Why Torture Doesn't Work" and you'll find plenty of documentation.

    Waterboarding IS torture.

    Here's a starter for you, in case you'd like to actually know what it is you're talking about.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/04/24/66895/cia-official-no-proof-harsh-techniques.html


    I'm finished with you. I should never have engaged you in comments in the first place.

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  7. Waterboarding is torture.We executed japanese officers for doing it in WW2.The majority of americans believe jesus walked with t-rex so like you, In Ur Blog Eatin Wafflesamong are the stupid.

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  8. I declare myself the winner of this argument.

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  9. Congratulations. I'm glad someone wins. :-)

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  10. And for every article on why it doesn't work there is one for why waterboarding did work.

    Torture or not it saved lives

    You lose, have a nice day :-)

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