Sunday, January 16, 2011

No Excuse For This

In a bizarre and sad story, one of the victims of the Tuscon shooting has been committed for making a threat against the Arizona Tea Party official who blamed Rep. Giffords herself for the shooting for her lack of armed security.

James Eric Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed after he made threats against a Tea Party member at the event sponsored by ABC News, Ogan said.

Fuller photographed Trent Humphries and said "You are dead" when Humphries began speaking at the event, according to Ogan.

He was taken into custody after 12 p.m. (2 p.m. ET).

Fuiller has not been charged and Ogan said it is unclear whether Humphries will press charges.

The town hall event was held at Tucson's St. Odilia Church and was taped for Christiane Amanpour's "This Week" program on ABC.

Fuller was the Tuscon shooting victim who blamed Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Sharron Angle for the shooting, but in this environment making the threat against Humphries like that in a public place is not only inexcusable, but pretty sad to boot.

It's clear this guy has some serious PTSD issues, and let's remember this guy was shot by Loughner.  I hope he gets the help he needs and I'm glad he didn't hurt anyone, especially himself.

15 comments:

  1. Zandar's Credibility ProblemJanuary 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM

    Oh now you choose to address how your rhetoric on your hate site and your false accusations against conservatives led directly to death threats against the Tea Party in Arizona.

    And you choose to "address it" by ignoring it.

    The irony of a liberal anti-government terrorist like Loughner wounding a man so he snaps and starts acting like a lefty blogger is astounding.

    Once again, when will you admit to your share of the guilt in driving this man over the edge when you know now that your extremist, hate-filled rhetoric in his condition was enough to cause him to snap and the consequences of your blog?

    How do you sleep with this blog still open to spew "eliminationist rhetoric"?

    Will it take somebody getting shot while screaming "Zandar was right!" before you end this shameful hate site?

    I urge you to close it down now. Have to common decency to live up to your own standards.

    Before you end up with more blood on your hands.

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  2. Your concern is noted. You can take it back now.

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  3. Zandar's Credibility ProblemJanuary 16, 2011 at 9:53 AM

    Just applying the same standards Zandar did to Sarah Palin.

    But thanks for refusing to answer my questions.

    As a regular defender of Zandar's rhetoric there Starstorm don't you think he needs to be held to the same standards he wants to impose on conservatives' free speech?

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  4. It's clear this guy has some serious PTSD issues,...

    I can believe it.

    Fuller was the Tuscon shooting victim who blamed Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Sharron Angle for the shooting,...

    I can also believe the PTSD caused him to make these statements as well, and to do so while he was talking to Commie trash Amy Goodman (no, I'm not making light his possible PTSD issues; I think it explains it). So if Fuller made these statements due to PTSD, how do liberals not suffering from PTSD explain their own reprehensible behavior?

    ...the Arizona Tea Party official who blamed Rep. Giffords herself for the shooting for her lack of armed security.

    Maybe this occurred in the language of liberal "newspeak", but not in plain English. If read in plain English, Humphries was asking a question. A legitimate question. Another legitimate question would be, why didn't Sheriff Dupnik, who also believed in all this Tea Party "violence" and "eliminationist rhetoric", station a few of his cops around the parking lot that was within his jurisdiction? See, this isn't blame, it's a question. In plain English.

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  5. Zandar's Credibility ProblemJanuary 16, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    True.

    Why hasn't Sheriff Dupnik been forced to resign? Where was the additional security at the Giffords event?

    Also, why were Humphries and Fuller at the same town hall event? Whose bright idea was that?

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  6. Let's check the body count, shall we?

    Jared Loughner shot twenty people, killing six.

    Mr. Fuller took someone's picture and said something mean.

    Yep, exactly the same.

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  7. Zandar's Credibility ProblemJanuary 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM

    Which proves what, Allan?

    The government failed when Sheriff Dupnik failed to protect Congresswoman Giffords despite his misgivings?

    The government failed when Loughner's several run-ins with law enforcement failed to produce incarceration?

    The government failed when Loughner's actions at Pima County Community College set off no alarm bells?

    Or that the government failed to get Jared Loughner the help he clearly needed?

    There's only a body count because the government, specifically Pima County government, failed on multiple occasions.

    Any objective observer of the situation would see that.

    But you're not objective, are you?

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  8. Anyone who says he is objective is a liar and a troll.

    Oh that's right, you're both.

    Interesting that you're embracing the need for strong, centralized government that gathers data on its citizens, and forcibly incarcerates its mentally ill individuals before they commit any actual crimes. Speaking of which, what's your name and address? I need to do my public duty and report you before someone gets hurt.

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  9. "commie trash"! how's that for dialing down the hateful rhetoric?

    i love steveAR because i never have to feel the slightest bit of guilt about insulting him and his shit-brained blathering. what an utter fucking moron.

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  10. "commie trash"! how's that for dialing down the hateful rhetoric?

    It's not hateful rhetoric. Commie trash is an absolutely accurate and factual description of Amy Goodman. I'm surprised you have a problem with that.

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  11. Steve has a point; it's as accurate a description as the one I use when referring to Glenn Beck as a 'Conspiracy Spinning Fascist Sypmathizer with clear mental issues' and Sarah Palin as a 'Not so Bright Dominionist and negligent mother', and Rush Limbaugh as a 'Self absorbed addict so filled with loathing that he lashes out at anyone not willing to lick his taint'.

    I hold that these are even more accurate than Steve's description of Goodman, since she's neither a communist nor made of trash. But, I'm sure that's just street slang they use in the 'hood where he chills with his homeys sipping his purple drank.

    I believe that to be an absolutely accurate and factual description of SteveAR's homelife, and would be surprised to find he would have a problem with this.

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  12. @steveAR

    i should stop calling you stupid. it's obvious that you're a fucking lunatic.

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  13. it's as accurate a description as the one I use when referring to Glenn Beck as a 'Conspiracy Spinning Fascist Sypmathizer with clear mental issues' and Sarah Palin as a 'Not so Bright Dominionist and negligent mother', and Rush Limbaugh as a 'Self absorbed addict so filled with loathing that he lashes out at anyone not willing to lick his taint'.

    See, here's the problem. Even if you want a change in tone to political rhetoric, you'd say the exact same hateful things about Beck, Palin, Limbaugh, and conservatives anyway; it has been proven time and again that you liberals refuse to adhere to your own abysmal standards. Take a look at Zandar; he frequently makes it a point to refer to some conservative policies as racist, not because there is any evidence of this, but because he can. His continuous efforts to claim conservative rhetoric had anything to do with the Tuscon tragedy is pretty damning evidence proving my point.

    As far as Goodman being Commie trash, she is. You saying she isn't shows you're still a moronic puppet who doesn't know anything but what your liberal masters tell you.

    And for any lefty who demands I become more civil, Don Surber says what I feel.

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  14. And if you want hate speech, along with all kinds of violent and eliminationist rhetoric, just wait until you hear how the talk will be before next Sunday's NFC Conference Championship game.

    Go Bears!!!

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  15. Amazingly, in the name of a civil society, I must refrain from calling conservatives who have spent a considerable portion of their professional careers attacking liberals names which make them cry.

    Also, I must also accept the labels 'commie trash' and moronic puppet' because they are somehow accurate and part of your right of free speech. I would be more offended, except we've been hearing these names for several decades now, and frankly don't think much of you conservatives either.

    I agree with Surber as well, amazingly, for though Donny is quite an amazing berk and a hideous person in general, Republicans have consistently shown themselves to be unfit to govern this nation, and to not point this out is an abrogation of my free speech as well.

    So, you can bite me as well. Go cry to your political masters, and feel bad about starting a culture of torture, about reinforcing am economy dominated by the wealthy getting their first and screwing every one else, a faith more concerned with gays and abortion than helping the least of us and seeking peace. I will call you all anything I want, until you start showing the most mild interest in becoming civil yourselves.

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