Bachmann began the discussion by arguing that the Senate would be breaking it's own rules to pass a health care bill if it uses reconciliation.Seems Grayson won this battle flat out. Note Bachmann's mistake: She says majority rule is a horrible, "nuclear option" but then admits that the House uses...majority rule. Larry King asks what's wrong with it, and Bachmann simply can't answer the question. In fact, she makes it worse for herself.
Bachmann: An up or down vote is a good thing, Larry. It's just how many votes will it take. Will it take 50 votes or will it take 60 votes... King: Well what's wrong with majority rules?Grayson responded:
Bachmann: Well because that's not how the Senate works. The Senate works with 60 votes, and now what the president is promoting is a nuclear option which is 50 votes.
King: But it used the majority rules on the Bush tax cuts.
Bachmann: Well, the House uses straight majority rules, the Senate doesn't. So what this means is that the Senate has to break their own rules in order to pass the bill.
King: And that's wrong?
Bachmann: Oh, I think so. Sure.
My esteemed colleague from Minnesota is entirely wrong. There's nothing in the Senate rules that prevents reconciliation. It's been used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans. If it's good enough to provide tax cuts for the rich -- twice under Bush -- it's good enough to provide health care for all Americans.
Then Grayson comes along and points out Republicans have used reconciliation time and time again.
This wasn't a debate, it was shooting fish in a barrel. Next time, the GOP really needs to use somebody a little better for their mouthpiece.
It was only shooting fish in a barrel if you're only rooting for one side, but as this blog has obviously shown it doesn't care about facts or stepping back and taking a look, it only cares about further spewing out liberal garbage.
ReplyDeleteWhy would a majority rule work in the house but not the senate? I mean don't they have the same amount of people in both? Oh wait they dont? Hmm...maybe theres something to that....
Also you can hold on to the liberal talking point that you all spout off so much about "zomg they used it the mostest times!!" but the fact is it has not been used on something the size of the health care industry. Cutting taxes didn't force grandma to have to see a new doctor like the Obama bill will if they follow it 100% and cut medicare payments by 22%. Tax cuts didn't cause doctors to just say the hell with it and go do something else like the Obama bill WILL if they follow through. Sorry it's a fail comparison.