And yes, preliminary analysis showed that nearly all the major polling outfits favored the Republicans, it was just a matter of by how much. But Rasmussen earned themselves a special rebuke (emphasis mine):
The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.
Moreover, Rasmussen’s polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average. In just 12 cases, Rasmussen’s polls overestimated the margin for the Democrat by 3 or more points. But it did so for the Republican candidate in 55 cases — that is, in more than half of the polls that it issued.
If one focused solely on the final poll issued by Rasmussen Reports or Pulse Opinion Research in each state — rather than including all polls within the three-week interval — it would not have made much difference. Their average error would be 5.7 points rather than 5.8, and their average bias 3.8 points rather than 3.9.
Nor did it make much difference whether the polls were branded as Rasmussen Reports surveys, or instead, were commissioned for Fox News by its subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research. (Both sets of surveys used an essentially identical methodology.) Polls branded as Rasmussen Reports missed by an average of 5.9 points and had a 3.9 point bias. The polls it commissioned on behalf of Fox News had a 5.1 point error, and a 3.6 point bias.
Rasmussen’s polls have come under heavy criticism throughout this election cycle, including from FiveThirtyEight. We have critiqued the firm for its cavalier attitude toward polling convention. Rasmussen, for instance, generally conducts all of its interviews during a single, 4-hour window; speaks with the first person it reaches on the phone rather than using a random selection process; does not call cellphones; does not call back respondents whom it misses initially; and uses a computer script rather than live interviewers to conduct its surveys. These are cost-saving measures which contribute to very low response rates and may lead to biased samples.
Rasmussen also weights their surveys based on preordained assumptions about the party identification of voters in each state, a relatively unusual practice that many polling firms consider dubious since party identification (unlike characteristics like age and gender) is often quite fluid.
Rasmussen’s polls — after a poor debut in 2000 in which they picked the wrong winner in 7 key states in that year’s Presidential race — nevertheless had performed quite strongly in in 2004 and 2006. And they were about average in 2008. But their polls were poor this year.
The discrepancies between Rasmussen Reports polls and those issued by other companies were apparent from virtually the first day that Barack Obama took office. Rasmussen showed Barack Obama’s disapproval rating at 36 percent, for instance, just a week after his inauguration, at a point when no other pollster had that figure higher than 20 percent.
Rasmussen Reports has rarely provided substantive responses to criticisms about its methodology. At one point, Scott Rasmussen, president of the company, suggested that the differences it showed were due to its use of a likely voter model. A FiveThirtyEight analysis, however, revealed that its bias was at least as strong in polls conducted among all adults, before any model of voting likelihood had been applied.
Some of the criticisms have focused on the fact that Mr. Rasmussen is himself a conservative — the same direction in which his polls have generally leaned — although he identifies as an independent rather than Republican. In our view, that is somewhat beside the point. What matters, rather, is that the methodological shortcuts that the firm takes may now be causing it to pay a price in terms of the reliability of its polling.
What Nate here is saying seems to boil down to "It's funny how all the strange methodology that Rasmussen uses seems to favor an overemphasis of traditional Republican voters". Even in this year's election where Republicans did extraordinarily well, Rasmussen overshot the mark not only by a large margin favoring the GOP, but did so time and time again. You would think Rasmussen would then adjust its final model based on this, as it did have precision hitting that 4-5 points in the GOP's favor repeatedly. That didn't happen.
Rasmussen's game appears to be selling a narrative that support for conservative positions was stronger than it really was. Rasmussen is a prolific poller, polling races that other pollsters would only poll less often. Considering there were many times this year where the most recent poll in a particular race was Rasmussen's (and other national outfits would go 6-8 weeks or more without a poll of that race) that had to have affected the framing of the coverage of the race.
How many "Republican X is surprisingly close to incumbent Democrat Y" stories out there were based on Rasmussen polls when Rasmussen was off from 4 to nearly 40 points?
Then again, maybe that was the point. Rasmussen may have sacrificed its credibility to boost the GOP, but if Nate Silver wasn't around to call them on it, would anyone have noticed? Will that have any effect on polls taken towards 2012, and the Village media's use of them? Doubtful.
And looking back at that chart, Rasmussen was hardly the only outfit that favored the GOP by a significant margin. Rasmussen was just the most inaccurate of the lot.
Remember how PPP is considered a Dem leaning polling outfit too? Real Clear Politics always slaps on (D) after any of their polls. They actually shaded a bit towards the GOP, and with the least amount of bias towards a party. I wonder if that D stands for "Damn Straight They're Unbiased". Does Rasmussen and Marist get an (R) after each poll heading into 2012?
Somehow I doubt anyone in the Village will take notice, especially the guys on the conservative end of things. Keep that in mind heading forward.
Even in this year's election where Republicans did extraordinarily well, Rasmussen overshot the mark not only by a large margin favoring the GOP, but did so time and time again. You would think Rasmussen would then adjust its final model based on this, as it did have precision hitting that 4-5 points in the GOP's favor repeatedly. That didn't happen.
ReplyDeleteUmm, you do realize that until the actual election results were in there was no real proof that Rasmussen was over-estimating Republican results? Or do you think Rasmussen should have adjusted his models in October to get in line with everyone else, just because?
And, since you seem to have read the Silver piece, you do realize that Rasmussen did "quite strongly" in 2004 and 2006, and "average" in 2008? Yup, I see that excerpted in your post, too.
In the battle versus the stupid you seem to have switched sides.
Tom Maguire
"Umm, you do realize that until the actual election results were in there was no real proof that Rasmussen was over-estimating Republican results?"
ReplyDeleteNo offense Tom, but isn't that kind of the entire point of Nate's exercise?
Isn't the question then because, as you said, Rasmussen did have strongly accurate and precise results in 2008, what Rasmussen did differently this year and why?
What about the comparisons of Rasmussen's results compared to PPP, Survey USA or Quinnipiac's numbers at similar points on the same races?
Rasmussen's polls in the final three weeks were off more than other pollsters, they were off by nearly four points on a consistent basis even given the large sample size of Rasmussen polls, and when they were off they heavily favored being off in the direction of the GOP.
Given that there were so many Rasmussen polls, for them to be consistently wrong like that *and* to be used as the basis of framing the race in progress by a number of media outlets, pundits, talking heads and bloggers is kind of disturbing, yes?
The accusation that Rasmussen is "selling a narrative" intentionally may very well be over the line. But the evidence against Rasmussen that Nate presents is very solid that Rasmussen did a much worse job in 2010 than 2008. And given the fact that we know that Rasmussen is very much capable of being consistent and accurate, you have to again ask why they were so far off this time around.
A reasonable explanation is that polls drive narrative for the framing of races, and some sort of self fulfilling effect is at work here, intentional or not.
And given the repeated inaccuracy of its polls in the last three versus the final results, and the repeated inaccuracy favoring the GOP, it's a fair methodology question to ask.
And while we're at it, CNN needs to fire their polling guys.
ReplyDeleteRasmussen has been notorious in the past for publishing inaccurate polls throughout an election campaign, then rescuing credibility by "normalizing" them in the period immediately before the vote.
ReplyDeleteNo idea why this wasn't the modus operandi this time. Maybe SNAFU, maybe they just jumped the shark. Glad Nate nailed them.
Why is Tom Maguire giving this idiotic and sophomoric blog any attention?
ReplyDeleteTom gets more hits in a morning than this blog gets in a week. Why would anyone stoop down to Zandar's "I flunked out of community college" level?
"Why is Tom Maguire giving this idiotic and sophomoric blog any attention?
ReplyDeleteTom gets more hits in a morning than this blog gets in a week. Why would anyone stoop down to Zandar's "I flunked out of community college" level?"
yet here you are, reading and posting. gee, do you have even the slightest sense of self-awareness or are you in a basement somewhere writhing in your own excrement while screaming obscenities at the computer?
holy fuck, you are an idiot.