Zandar's Thought Of the Day

When GOP party officials, sitting GOP members of Congress, and campaign officials up to and including the douchebag running for President say ACORN ACORN DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD REZKO BLOOGITY BLAH BLAH OSAMA BIN BIDEN ACORN MUSLIM PLANT SOCIALIST TERRORIST AYERS ACORN SCARY BLACK MAN IN THE FOYER I SAY OLD CHAP I MUST ABSCOND TO THE BILLIARDS ROOM AND RETRIEVE MY BLUNDERBUSS WHAT WHAT REZKO ACORN TRAITOR! *deep breath* what they really mean is:

1. Do not pay any attention to arguably the worst-kept secret in America that is our continuing effort to steal this election (which we admit isn't going so well right now.)
   
2. In case #1 is unsuccessful, our official excuse as to why our brilliant plan to steal the election didn't work is that Obama must have stolen the election. Get him.

So yeah, I wouldn't put it past these assholes to call for impeachment investigations into Obama's "unprecedented voter fraud" before he even takes office.

You thought they hated Bill Clinton? You have no clue what hate is.

And when the investigation and impeachment calls are laughed off the national stage, the only question is how long will it take before somebody decides to "martyr themselves to save America from Obama" after the hate merchants say "Who will rid me of this troublesome Negro?"

Watch the reaction to that when it inevitably happens. I'm calling now that the wingnuts say:

Despite the tragic actions of this individual, such unfair blanket condemnations of our efforts to have Obama explain the unanswered questions surrounding his so-called "victory" is an affront to free speech. Instead, Mr. Obama owes the people of America a detailed explanation in order to bring closure to the wounded nation to calm the fury against him.

You guys think I'm joking, or engaging in hyperbole that the wingnuts in this country will blame Obama for somebody trying to kill Obama.

I'm not. It's only a question of how long it will take.

Helpful Bush Is Helpful

With the world financial crisis looming large over everyone, Preznitman decides to be Presidential again and will hold a world financial summit to solve the problem...and if that doesn't help, he'll hold...MORE MEETINGS!

President Bush announced Saturday that he will host the first of what could be several summits of world leaders to discuss the global response to the financial crisis.

"It is essential that we work together because we're in this crisis together," Bush said at Camp David, Maryland, with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and European Union President Jose Manuel Barroso.

"Together we will work to modernize our financial systems," Bush said. "We must resist the temptation of financial isolationism."

Bush said the summit would include developed and developing nations from around the world.

No date was set, though a White House statement said the gathering would be held in the United States "soon after" the November 4 general election.

Translation: "This problem is potentially catastrophic, but not catastrophic enough for me to do anything about it for at least three weeks, because every time I'm in the news, John McSame loses 2 points in the polls."

Do you think if Obama wins, Bush will invite Obama or any of his economic team to these summits?

I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

StupidiNews, Weekend Edition

• Dallas's school district made an accounting mistake...costing them $84 million and hundreds of teachers.
• Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen rocked out for Obama.
• A physicist has had 53 years to work on all the time in the world.
• Hundreds of protesters descend on Wall Street to boo the UberBailout.
• 30 million computer users have fallen for fake virus fixing adware.

Michele Bachmann And The New McCarthyism

Folks, bookmark this post. Minnesota Republican Michele Bachmann goes off the charts here on the wingnut Obama-hating insanity.



"What I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out if they are pro-America or anti-America."

Folks, this is a sitting member of Congress asking for investigations of Barack Obama and other sitting Democratic members of Congress and the media for what amounts to suspicion of treason. You do not get any more wingnut batshit crazy then this. Do you think she will "reach across the aisle" to embrace a President Obama?

Afterwards, The Nation's Katrina Vanden Heuvel takes Michele McCarthy out back to the woodshed, and not even Pat Buchanan will defend her.



At least there are some folks willing to stand up to incendiary nutjobs like Bachmann (and Sarah Palin for that matter) but there is a violently angry wing of the GOP that will never, under any circumstances, accept a Democrat in office. To them, a Democrat elected over a Republican is against the natural order of things...and one as President is tantamount to the most foul blasphemy. Throw in the fact this Democratic President is an African-American, and you get Michele Bachmann's tirade tonight on Hardball.

To her, Barack Obama literally represents the End Of Days. There are millions more folks like Michelle Bachmann out there, ranging from ignorant to hateful to downright violent. The GOP will let Bachmann and others like her spout their tirade, with the whole point of the exercise to dehumanize Barack Obama to the point of illegitimacy.

They honestly can't believe he will President. But he is not their President if elected, oh no. They will not recognize him as such if he wins. He will never be legitimate to Michelle Bachmann and her hate squad. They will attack him in a fashion that makes the GOP crusade to impeach Clinton look like a "minor playground misunderstanding."

This is the new McCarthyism, folks. Democrats are the Enemy. They must be destroyed by any means necessary. Should Obama become our next President as he most likely will be, they won't rest until Obama is gone. And you can take "gone" in any number of unpleasant ways, including the most dire.

We have a Secret Service protecting the man for a reason. And tirades like Michele Bachmann's exquisite little mountain of bile there serve only to fuel the need for more Secret Service protection for the President. My greatest fear is that somebody from this vile, hate-filled little place will say "Hell yeah, he's a damn traitor!" and take it upon themselves to rescue the country by doing something horrendous. We have quite a long history of good Presidents having their terms cut short.

I cannot help but pray that when that security detail is tested...when, not if...that our country can survive. I say "when" because various attempts have been made on every President's life since Kennedy's assassination. Of 43 Presidents, four have been assassinated. Two more were rumored to have been assassinated, and again, various attempts have been made.

It's not really a question of "if", really. It's how many...how many will be fueled by this sort of "free speech"?

Supremes Come Through

With a unanimous 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court told the Ohio GOP to go intercourse itself...for now.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled today in favor of Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, overturning a lower-court order that she provide to county elections boards by today details of discrepancies discovered with new voter registrations.

The court ruled 9-0 that the Ohio Republican Party, which sued Brunner for the information, was unlikely to succeed in its arguments that Brunner legally could be sued on this issue and that the courts had the authority to issue the order.

But the court expressed no opinion about whether federal law was being followed properly.

At issue is what should be done when personal information from newly registered voters doesn't match state motor vehicle and federal Social Security records after an automatic computer check is done.

The ruling settles for now a dispute that had worked its way through the lower federal courts in recent days, with district and appellate judges taking different sides on the issue.

The problem is that the issue of the dispute itself hasn't been addressed, only that the court wasn't the right avenue for it.

This may be over for now, but not for good.

Pointing Out McSame's Race-Baiting Proves Obama's A Racist

According to Chuck Krauthammer anyway. He's pissed at his own employer the NY Times calling McSame out on this, and insists that the only racism in this campaign is the stuff Obama's making up...

Let me get this straight. A couple of agitated yahoos in a rally of thousands yell something offensive and incendiary, and John McCain and Sarah Palin are not just guilty by association -- with total strangers, mind you -- but worse: guilty according to The New York Times of "race-baiting and xenophobia."

But should you bring up Barack Obama's real associations -- 20 years with Jeremiah Wright, working on two foundations and distributing money with William Ayers, citing the raving Michael Pfleger as one who helps him keep his moral compass (Chicago Sun-Times, April 2004) and the long-standing relationship with the left-wing vote-fraud specialist ACORN -- you have crossed the line into illegitimate guilt by association. Moreover, it is tinged with racism.

The fact that, when John McCain actually heard one of those nasty things said about Obama, he incurred the boos of his own crowd by insisting that Obama is "a decent person that you do not have to be scared (of) as president" makes no difference. It surely did not stop John Lewis from comparing McCain to George Wallace.

The search for McCain's racial offenses is untiring and often unhinged. Remember McCain's Berlin/celebrity ad that showed a shot of Paris Hilton? An appalling attempt to exploit white hostility at the idea of black men "becoming sexually involved with white women," fulminated New York Times columnist Bob Herbert. He took to TV to denounce McCain's exhumation of that most vile prejudice, pointing out McCain's gratuitous insertion in the ad of "two phallic symbols," the Washington Monument and the Leaning Tower of Pisa.

Hey Chuckles, keep telling yourself there's no racism in this campaign by Republicans that McSame isn't repudiating, especially when his entire campaign is based around plausible deniability of racist smears against Obama.

He then gets the assist from assholes like Chuckles here who clutch their pearls and want to know how dare Democrats (and Republicans and human beings in fact) get upset at this kind of thing, because pointing out these actions means Obama is "playing the cynical race card". The correct answer Chuckles is that when Republicans do this, they get called out on it, which probably explains why your boy Sidney there is losing by double digits.

The GOP Tries To Steal Ohio And More Part 2

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's counterstroke against the Ohio GOP's legal victory forcing her to come up with a plan to verify all of Ohio's new voters? Appealing to the Supreme Court on the grounds that forcing the new voters to cast provisional ballots will disenfranchise hundreds of thousands.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to decide how 200,000 Ohioans will be voting in the presidential election.

Brunner wants those newly registered voters to use regular ballots. The Ohio Republican Party would prefer that they fill out provisional ballots to give boards of elections time to determine whether they are eligible to vote or not.

Late Wednesday, Brunner appealed a ruling from the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that would force her to cross-check the names of people who have registered to vote or updated registrations since Jan. 1 against a state driver's license database. She would then have to tell Ohio's 88 boards of elections how to deal with people who don't match up.

Brunner fears voter suppression if the appeals court decision stands, since many provisional ballots are not counted for a variety of technicalities.

The GOP says a reversal of the appeals ruling would increase chances of voter fraud.

The court could decide to take up the case today.

At stake here is just how tough voter verification laws need to be surrounding the Help America Vote Act, or HAVA, passed after Florida in 2000.

The Republicans argue that ideally anything less than 100% certainty and Federal uniformity in state voter eligibility laws will result in voter registration fraud and vote fraud, and that the right to vote is the most cherished right in America and therefore should be the most protected, and that if Americans seriously want to exercise that right, they must be willing to endure close scrutiny on behalf of the country. There is plenty of evidence that rigged elections throughout the world are a problem.

Democrats argue that there's no evidence of the kind of voter fraud the Republicans are complaining about, and that they are in fact trying to surpress millions of minority and poor voters -- traditionally Democratic voters -- in order to assure Republicans win elections. There's plenty of evidence to support laws designed to reduce turnout of these groups in our own history, laws struck down as unconstitutional burdens upon these voters.

The Supreme Court, if they take up the decision, could be deciding the future of voting in this country. It's very possible that the Supreme Court ruling will be used as a precedent across the country for minimum standards in voter eligibility checks. If they rule in favor of the Ohio GOP and do define strict guildelines for voter eligibility in the Buckeye State, there will be precedent to possibly rework voter eligibility laws across the country, and the challenges the GOP can make to new voters across the country, perhaps even in this election.

How much chaos would it cause if dozens of states that didn't already meet the strict guidelines the Supreme Court could hand down to Ohio had to then force all their new voters into provisional ballots? Millions of votes could get rejected across the country for not meeting the criteria, and that could turn an Obama landslide into a McSame victory.

If they side with Secretary Brunner, it may be a pyrrhic victory as well. Certainly the right wing Wurlitzer will sound off that more than ever McSame must win the election in order to replace the Supreme Court's "judicial activists" with "patriotic Americans" and will motivate even more hatred and bile against Obama than before. He will be seen as illegitimate by possibly millions of Americans, and it would only take one to possibly bring him harm, most likely spouting that famous Jeffersonian quote about the Tree of Liberty needing to be refreshed by the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Whether or not you agree that the GOP is trying to steal THIS election (I believe they are, they always play to win) they will try to set the stage for as much dehumanizing hatred as possible against Barack Obama. There will be violence eventually. It's just a matter of how deadly and widespread it will be. In these dire economic times, economic times that will get far, far worse before they get better, we will see good people do bad things in the name of what they believe to be justice.

This Supreme Court decision could become the GOP's final revenge against us all.

StupidiNews!

• Sarah Palin will in fact appear on SNL this weekend.
• Joe The Plumber? No plumber's license in Ohio.
• Washington Mutual's collapse has left a big hole in the Seattle charity scene.
• Brother, can you spare a job in Dayton?
• The Red Sox score a dramatic 8-7 comeback to stay alive against the Rays.

Big Pile Of Lose

Worst Post-Debate analysis of the day has to hands down go to Jim Pethokoukis of U.S. News and World Report's Capital Commerce blog.

No. Really. You're kidding me. Barack Obama actually told that Joe the Plumber guy that he wants to "spread the wealth around." What, did Obama just get done reading the Wikipedia entry on Huey "Share the Wealth" Long or something? Was he somehow channeling that left-wing populist from the Depression? Talk about playing into the most extreme stereotype of your party, that it is infested with socialists.

A while back I chatted with a University of Chicago professor who was a frequent lunch companion of Obama's. This professor said that Obama was as close to a full-out Marxist as anyone who has ever run for president of the United States. Now, I tend to quickly dismiss that kind of talk as way over the top. My working assumption is that Obama is firmly within the mainstream of Democratic politics. But if he is as free with that sort of redistributive philosophy in private as he was on the campaign trail this week, I have no doubt that U of C professor really does figure him as a radical. And after last night's debate, a few more Americans might think that way, too. McCain's best line: "Now, of all times in America, we need to cut people's taxes. We need to encourage business, create jobs, not spread the wealth around."

And by the way, I just noticed that the IBD/TIPP poll, the most accurate in 2004, has McCain down by just 3 points. If the contest is perceived by the voters as a contest between a wealth redistributor and a wealth creator, then it could be a long night come Nov. 4. This is still a center-right country, gang. Note this Gallup poll from June:

When given a choice about how government should address the numerous economic difficulties facing today's consumer, Americans overwhelmingly—by 84% to 13%—prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans.

There you go.

Hey Jimbo, when you're not drinking the McKoolAid, come up and take a breath and ask yourself some honest questions:

1. Did Bush's eight years of tax cuts make the economy better, judging from where we are right now?
2. Do you think with our government committing "massive wealth distribution" from taxpayer to Fortune 500 companies to the tune of trillions, that we should get nothing in return?
3. Is ExxonMobil too strapped to afford a bit more taxation a bit less taxpayer subsidies when they are making billions in quarterly profits?
4. Do you think the American working voter really sees "spreading the wealth around" right now with huge bailouts to companies as a bad thing?
5. Do you honestly think Americans are really, really eager to embrace tax cuts for corporations right now after said bailout?
6. Do you think John McSame is actually going to win this election?
   

If you answered yes to any of these questions, you're going to really, really hate the intrusive, shocking reality of the Obama administration. I suggest locking your doors before the Army Of Melanin-Intensive Neosocialists come a-callin'.

The center-right just got its ass kicked in the stock market. We're all leftists now, jagoff.

Still Locked Up

With a host of bad 3Q economic news slated for this month, escaping the immediate threat of the credit crisis has only given way to the longer-term threat of a 6-9 month recession or longer, and that caused yesterday's collapse. The Nikkei ended up giving back 11%, Euro stocks are down around 3%. LIBOR numbers are still depressingly high and that's continuing to cause damage. There appears to be a bargain hunting day ahead, but expected bad news from the manufacturing sector and labor market could put us back down another 300 points pretty quickly.

It's not looking good. The best the perma-bulls can come up with is another Fed rate cut and some truly moronic garbage about a "W-shaped rally" that will naturally solve America's problems by the end of the year.

Now that the US consumer has finally hit the wall, there’s growing speculation the Federal Reserve will push its interest rate pedal to the floor.

September’s 1.2 percent decline in retail sales and downward revisions in the two previous months virtually assure the first quarterly decline in consumer spending in 17 years. That's something economists have been worrying about for some time, when it appeared the government’s fiscal stimulus package was having a limited effect.

“I've said since the summer that a ‘dark period’ of economic data lie ahead,” Miller & Tabak’s chief bond market analyst Tony Crescenzi told clients in a note.

Crescenzi is among the many economy watchers who now expect the government’s GDP data to show the economy contracted in the third-quarter. Economists expect that contraction to continue through the fourth quarter and into the first quarter of next year, which also bodes poorly for holiday sales.

“Housing has to bottom first,” says economist David Jones of DMJ Advisors. “So the recession doesn't end until March 2009 at the earliest, maybe even June 2009 at the latest.”

Funny. I don't see the housing market hitting bottom until 2010 at least. That means we could be in for a multi-year recession or something worse if these money market numbers don't resolve themselves very shortly. They're still locked up tight.

What form will next week's "rescue package" take, I wonder?

StupidiNews!

• Hurricane Omar takes aim at the Virgin Islands.
• The McSame campaign equates Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party with "smearing Obama's religion".
• Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has a major fundraising advantage over challenger Bruce Lunsford in Kentucky that could give him a solid win.
• What does the FCC plan to do with the soon to be empty analog TV spectrum?
• The Phillies advance to the World Series after knocking off the Dodgers 5-1.

Debate Deblogging: Parting Shots

One final note: The snap polls have Obama winning even more handily in this debate than the last two.

The first snap polls on the debate are out, and they're giving a resounding win to Barack Obama.

In the CBS poll of undecided debate-watchers, 53% say Obama won, only 22% say McCain won, and 24% say it was a tie.

The CNN poll was just read on the air, surveying all debate-watchers in general. It shows 58% saying Obama won, to 31% saying McCain won. Barack Obama's personal ratings are 66% favorable to 33% unfavorable, way ahead of McCain's score of 49%-49%.

Late Update: Some more numbers from the CNN poll were just read on TV. Obama was seen as stating his ideas more clearly by 66%-25%, was seen as the stronger leader by 56%-39%, and was more likable by 70%-22%. McCain did win in one category: He's the candidate who launched more attacks on his opponent, by a whopping 80%-7%.

Late Late Update: Independents, who made up 30% of CNN's sample, gave it to Obama 57%-31%, essentially the same as the overall margin for Obama.

Despite my economic worries...I'm glad it's most likely Obama at the helm and not McSame.

Late Night Econ

Oh, Nikkei's down 911 at the lunch break. Japan's PM Taro Aso called the US out on its bank plan. After today's nasty drop, more will come.

Japan's Prime Minister Taro Aso said the U.S. government must accelerate steps to prop up financial institutions or face mounting consequences that include slumping stock values.

The Bush administration said this week it plans to spend $250 million buying stakes in thousands of financial firms to help halt a credit freeze.

``People think the $250 billion plan is insufficient and that's why markets are falling,'' Aso told lawmakers in parliament in Tokyo today. ``They need to make a quick decision to inject capital.''

Aso, who made similar remarks to lawmakers yesterday, said the lesson from Japan's bank bailout 10 years ago was that time is of essence. ``Looking at Japan's experience from 1997 to 1998, unless you take action quickly, you end up paying a higher price,'' he said.

I love it. Aso thinks we haven't thrown enough money at the problem and wants to know when we're going to get serious about saving our economy.

We haven't even started being serious about saving our economy yet. The credit markets are glacially thawing, at this rate we might see bank lending in six months...far too late. What makes anybody think we're going to start now? Did anyone here see the debate? Both candidates talked about wild programs that will never happen. We're not getting health care. We're not getting tax cuts. We're not getting tax credits on things.

We're in the poorhouse. Our standard of living is going to evaporate over the next several months and years. If gas was $8 a gallon and food was twice the cost, could you afford things? You'd better think about that. That's where we are headed. How many more 700 point drops can we take?

By my math, 11. Do you think this country can survive another 2 weeks of 700 point losses? This is not a healthy market when we are losing 9-10% a day and gaining 10% another day. We're in dire, serious trouble still and this is happening worldwide, in real time. Like the vibrations of a loose jet engine part, something's going to break off and when it does we're going to crash. Hard. It's going to take years and years to recover from this and when we do recover we're not going to be a world power any longer. Our time is done. It's China or India's turn soon. Unless we see a major turnaround in confidence in a few days, it's over, folks. The bank nationalization plan is not working. There's too much bad news. Confidence is key and there is no confidence out there.

America will not be the same. Pundits are still talking about a "probable recession" in much the same way a volcano forming in your living room is a probable source of geothermal heat.

Can you imagine the mood of the country as we vote with the Dow at something ridiculous like 2,800? Is Dow 2,800 really that insane after this week?

I'm going to bed. I'm scaring myself again.

Debate Deblogging: Final Round -- FIGHT!

9:00 PM From Zandardad's alma mater of Hofstra University, Obama vs McSame live. Format is both candidates sit at a large desk with moderator Bob Scheiffer in the middle.

9:01 PM Bob lays out the rules, Domestic Policy, 10 questions, 2 minutes for each then 5 minutes of discussion, 9 minutes total on each question.

Question 1: The economic crisis. Why is your plan better? McSame first. Shoutouts to Nan Reagan. Americans are angry. Short and long term fixes. One short term fix: must put a floor on the housing market, buy mortgages. Disappointed at Paulson.

Obama: Looks at camera, not Bob. Talks about bailout lacking rescue plan for middle class, four points. Job tax breaks, tax cuts for middle class, I agree with my opponent on helping homeowners, I disagree with how he does it. Long term, fix energy, health care. Discussion. McSame tells story about how Obama will put small businesses out of business. No tax increase for you, Joe the Plumber! Obama discusses his tax policy: McSame cuts taxes on corporate America, I wand tax cut for 95% of America. McSame looking patient. My conversation with Joe was that fact he needed at tax cuts. 98% of small businesses will get tax decrease! McSame: Obama's gonna take Joe's money! Class warfare! Why increase ANYONE'S taxes right now? Obama: ExxonMobil and Warren Buffet can afford it. Nobody likes taxes. But we got em. McSame: TAXES! TAX RATE iS 35%! WE'LL LOSE JOBS! CUT BUSINESS TAXES!

Bob: Shut it. Wash, really.

9:13 Question 2: We ran the numbers. Each of you will add $200 billion to the deficit with your plans. I want specifics on what you will cut. Obama: I'm going paygo here, Bob. $15 billion on insurance subsidies and programs that don't work, we cut. We differ on investing in America. If we invest now in health care, we save later, energy too. McSame: HOLC bought up mortgages, they made money, Clinton brought that up. Bob: what are you cutting? McSame: Foreign aid to countries that don't like us. I like energy programs. Spending freeze, I will take the hatchet, ethanol subsidies, tarrifs, I can save billions! I will veto earmarks! Obama likes earmarks! I cut pork! Obama: Across the board spending is a hatchet, John. We need a scalpel. Earmarks are crap in the long run. Bush came in with a surplus, he then doubled the debt and the deficit. McSame voted for Bush. Bob: Can you balance the budget? McSame. Yep, and I'm NOT BUSH YOU WHIPPERSNAPPER! YOU RAISED TAXES! WE CAN TAKE A HATCHET! I will balance the budget, we can do it! OBAMA LOVES PORK! LOOK AT OUR RECORDS! You tell me ONE TIME you stood up to your leaders of your party!
Obama: Tort reform. Charter schools. Clean coal. Yeah, I stood up. If if mistake your policies for Bush's, it's because at the core THEY ARE. You stood up on torture. Economics? 8 more years Bush.
McSame: I got scars! I disagreed! I reject your argument.

Sorry John, you lost this one.

Question 3: Both of you ran mean ass commercials and had attack dogs. Are each of you willing to make those accusations in person, right here, right now? McSame: Town hall meetings would have stopped this. Obama refused. I blame him. I regret how we both attacked...BUT I'm calling Obama out on John Lewis. I repudiated all of the bad attacks unlike Obama. I took the high road and I tell the truth. Obama spent more money on negative ads than anyone in history! He gave up on campaign finance limits! He lied!
Obama: We expect campaigns to be tough. 100% of McSame's ads are negative. People want to hear about the issues instead. The notion that the town hall meetings justify your negative crap is silly. I don't mind being attacked. We can't afford your negative stuff. Stick to the issues. He's changing the subject. I want to see him talk on the economy. He won't. He's politics as usual.
McSame: CARDINALS! You attack my stuff. Your ads are terrible! Unprecedented negative attack ad spending! I'm talking about the economy! I'm talking about Joe the Plumber! I didn't hear your repudiation.
Obama: OK fine, you want to open this can of worms? Let's talk about Palin's hate rallies and people yelling "terrorist! Kill him!" Let's talk about how John Lewis called you on it. I did repudiate him. We have difference on real issues.
McSame: I'm proud of our people, and yeah we call em on it. I'm not gonna stand for anyone picking on my people! I won't stand for it! Yeah let's talk about your rallies! I have repudiated it all, you haven't! Won't stand for it.
Obama: We don't have time for this crap. We've have real issues.
McSame: AYERS! ACORN! GREATEST VOTE FRAUDS IN HISTORY! OBAMA PAID THEM OFF!
Obama: Fine. Bill Ayers is a professor. Let's talk about him. Let's talk about all the people who worked with Ayers, all the REPUBLICANS. ACORN? I helped them along with the Motor Voter laws. Here's who I associate with, Volker, Luger, Buffet, Joe Biden.
McSame: AYERS! ACORN! AYERS! FACTS ARE FACTS! WHAT ARE HIS DETAILS! WE MUST KNOW! Oh, an I'm about the economy. I won't raise taxes like he will.

Obama killed him.

Question 4: Why would your running mate make a better President than the other guy's? Obama: Easy. Joe Biden would kick ass in foreign policy, he's from Scranton, he's been through tough stuff and he's fought for the little guy. McSame: SHE'S A REFORMER! FRESH AIR! TAKE OUT THE OLD BOY NETWORK! Oh and she has a special needs kid. Bob: Hey Barry, you think she's qualified? Obama: She's done some commendable stuff. But we can't do what she wants if we TAKE A HATCHET TO SPENDING. McSame: Biden's a nice guy, but he's been wrong on policy. Obama wants to spend more! REFORM! REFORM! NEW SPENDING! MORE TAXES!

Obama by a mile.

Question 5: Give me a number. How much can we reduce foreign oil in your first term? McSame: We'll cut all Middle East and Venezualan oil. Obama's a punk. Obama: Ten years is realistic. We have to stop borrowing money from China for starters. Expand domestic production, use em or lose em on oil company leases...but we have to use less oil. We must invest in energy. And hey, let's talk about trade agreements we're getting our asses kicked on John. I make no apology for doing that.
McSame: DRILL NOW! Also I love free trade. Also Obama hates Colombia and likes drugs. Free trade is a no brainer. Hey, maybe you should go there you dumb ass. Obama: Yeah, let's talk about Columbia, and the human rights abuses they have against workers, unlike Peru. We have to use free trade, but we need to stand up on bad trade agreements. We need to make efficient autos and cut down on oil and make 5 million new jobs.
Obama: HE HATES COLUMBIA BUT HE'D TALK TO CHAVEZ! HE'S HOOVER!

Nope. Obama.

Question 6: Bob: Control health care costs or expand coverage? Obama: We gotta do both. Two women laid off, have no healthcare. We'll cut costs. You have coverage? You're fine. You don't? We'll combine for a huge pool and negotiate the best rates and prevent discrimination. It'll cost up front, but it'll fix it in the long run.
McSame: It's terrible, but the problem is cost, not coverage. We gotta have healthy people to save money. $5,000 Tax credit! Joe! Obama will fine you! TELL US THE FINE! HEALTH CARE BUREAUCRACY! Obama: The fine is zero you jagoff. I exempt small businesses, like I said LAST DEBATE. Uninsured people are costing you money. Let's talk about McCain's plan again...that $5,000 won't cover if, and YOU CHARGE TAXES ON HEALTH CARE FOR THE FIRST TIME! McSame: YOU'LL PAY A FINE JOE! BIG GOVERNMENT! My plan will save people money and shop plans and don't have to take the employer plan! BIG GOVERNMENT! HE'S SENATOR GOVERNMENT! I WANT YOU TO DO THE JOB! DEMOCRATS' FAULT!
Obama: Look, the US Chamber of Commerce says his plan sucks.

Obama.

Question 7: Bob: Would you appoint a person who disagrees with you on Roe v Wade?
McSame: No litmus tests. I voted for a long list of current justices. Obama voted against Roberts. I will find strict constitutionists. Bob: But would you nominate a pro-choice judge: McSame: Pro-choice judges aren't qualified. Obama: No litmus tests. But PEOPLE have the right to choose, right to privacy. I'd vote for qualified judges. We disagree. Like the Ledbetter case. Judges have to understand fairness and justice.
McSame: We have to change the culture of America. OBAMA VOTES TO KILL BABIES! HE'S AN EXTREMIST PRO-ABORTIONIST! Obama: Not true. I didn't get an exception for the health of the mother. But look, there's common ground: preventing unintended pregancy and options for adoptions. McSame: HE'S PRO ABORTION! WE ADOPTED KIDS! WE MUST DEFEND THE UNBORN!

Wash. Personal views here.

Question 8: Bob: We spend more than anyone on education, but we suck. Obama: The debate is more money vs reform, we need both. Early education, reduce dropout rates, recruit an army of new teachers, more pay in exchange for accountability, make college affordable. $4,000 tuition credit for community service. But the real key are parents. Take responsibility.
McSame: Education is the civil rights issue of the 21st century. We need charter schools and school choice. Competition! Free market! But money's not the answer. We must improve education. More loans, adjust loans.
Bob: More federal money/involvement in education? Obama: Yeah...just not like Bush's NCLB. We never funded the programs and it failed. I agreed with my opponent on charter schools and getting rid of bad teachers. Where we disagree? Vouchers...oh and McSame's record on college affordability. Gotta pay for it. McSame: Gee, vouchers worked in DC. School choice is the key, pay more attention son. Reauthorize NCLB. Head Start sucks though. Let's reform programs! Rewards! Accountability! Sarah Palin! We'll cure autism! Reform! I'm a reformer! Vouchers work!
Obama: He's right about DC schools sucking. But there's 50 states to worry about too. McSame: Hahahah! JACKASS!

Wash. Same crap we've heard before.

Bob: Make your closing statements.
McSame: I'm a new direction! I'm a reformer! I can do this! You can trust me! I'm asking you to look at me. I've served my country like my father and grandfather. I'll serve as your President.
Obama: Tough out there for ya. Worst crisis in 75 years, we need change, I'll bring it. We can do it. We must invest in health care, college, energy jobs. Not gonna be easy or quick, but we can do it. Sacrifice and service.
They shake hands.

It's done.

Obama 5, 3 ties...no contest.

Debate Deblogging: Final Round Preview

And we open up going into the last hurrah for McSame to stop the blood loss. What honestly can the old man do? If he goes on the attack, he reinforces the "mean old man" routine. If he doesn't go on the attack, he loses the base as he pusses out. All Obama has to do is keep counter-punching at his leisure, and he wins. McSame is unstable and is likely to make another "That one!" reference.

Short of the best debate of his life, Obama's lead will continue to grow. We'll see in about ten minutes. I predict another Obama win, but we'll see what the old man has left in the tank. He's not a quitter...and that might ultimately finish him.