Friday, December 17, 2010

Unintended Consequences Of Complete Collapse

So the first casualty of the Dems folding on the omnibus spending bill?  Food safety legislation.

Earlier this month, Congress managed to pass the bill with strong bipartisan support—and over the objections of both tea partiers afraid the bill would send the government after their seeds and leftie foodie types who feared the bill would squash small farms and artisanal cheese makers. The bill was a decade in the making, despite record numbers of food borne illness outbreaks, from E. coli in spinach to salmonella in peanut butter that killed nine people. A day after the bill passed, however, news broke that language in the bill had been screwed up, rendering it unconstitutional.

Supporters had hoped that a repaired bill would still land on the president's desk this year if it could pass along with a big omnibus spending bill slated for a vote this week. But after Republicans defected in the face of pressure from tea party activists opposed to $8 billion in earmarks buried in the bill, Democrats were forced to withdraw the spending measure, taking the food safety bill along with it. Democrats also tried attaching the food safety bill to a continuing resolution that would have funded the federal government until September. But Republicans have also opposed that measure, leaving Democrats with a scaled-down resolution that would merely keep the government open until February, when the new Congress can deal with the rest of the issues.

So right now the landmark legislation to modernize the FDA for the first time in several decades is dead, because Republicans are a bunch of lying assholes who will stab anyone and everyone in the back in order to "win".

Remember that next time you read about the next time millions of pounds of meat or produce are recalled or a bacteria outbreak in our food supply is killing people.  Remember that the Republicans scrapped this because they aim to make sure government can never do anything good.

Funny how that works, huh.

13 comments:

SteveAR said...

Remember that next time you read about the next time millions of pounds of meat or produce are recalled or a bacteria outbreak in our food supply is killing people.

Right. Because had this bill passed, there would never have been a bacteria outbreak in our food supply to kill people. Ever. By the way, this bill would increase the FDA's recall power, so the amount of recalls would likely increase.

So right now the landmark legislation to modernize the FDA for the first time in several decades is dead, because Republicans are a bunch of lying assholes who will stab anyone and everyone in the back in order to "win".

Right again. Republicans bad, Democrats good. Never mind this:

A day after the bill passed, however, news broke that language in the bill had been screwed up, rendering it unconstitutional.

Who is in charge of the Senate? Oh yeah; Democrats. So what it means is that the Senate as a whole, Democrats and Republicans, and their staffers, are made up of morons, not assholes. It isn't as if there was 213 years of history to learn that appropriations bills must originate in the House. But of course, only Republicans are bad according to those who can rationalize anything to make it appear that way.

SteveAR said...

Earlier this month, Congress managed to pass the bill with strong bipartisan support—and over the objections of both tea partiers afraid the bill would send the government after their seeds and leftie foodie types who feared the bill would squash small farms and artisanal cheese makers.

Wickard is still on the books, right? That's the one that allows the federal government to regulate, as interstate commerce, farmers who grow their own products for personal use. Never mind that the product is never sold nor goes to a different state; the meanings of words are immaterial to liberals. This is the same Wickard that is being used by the federal government in its attempt to force people to buy health insurance because, according to liberals, a person's life is a piece of commerce to be regulated and controlled.

And then we have the Michelle Obama nutrition law, which now allows the federal government to regulate bake sales at local schools. Never mind that there is no interstate commerce involved; again, the meanings of words are immaterial to liberals.

But, of course, we shouldn't fear that the federal government would ever attempt to over-regulate small farms or even people who have small vegetable gardens to grow food for personal use, should we? Nah, that would be irrational, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Zandar said...

Except that the whole "regulate bake sale" thing is...surprise! A complete load of crap.

Would the new food safety law eliminate dangers in the food supply? No. Would it reduce them? Yes. But a Democrat is doing it, so it's bad.

But you prove my point that you're nothing but a sad little Republitroll by attacking the first lady for wanting to see healthier American kids. How awful of her...

Zandar's Credibility Problem said...

"Except that the whole "regulate bake sale" thing is...surprise! A complete load of crap."

Fact-free Zandar strikes again!

"A child nutrition bill on its way to President Barack Obama — and championed by the first lady — gives the government power to limit school bake sales and other fundraisers that health advocates say sometimes replace wholesome meals in the lunchroom."

"The legislation, part of first lady Michelle Obama's campaign to stem childhood obesity, provides more meals at school for needy kids, including dinner, and directs the Agriculture Department to write guidelines to make those meals healthier. The legislation would apply to all foods sold in schools during regular class hours, including in the cafeteria line, vending machines and at fundraisers."

BUSTED AGAIN!

It's really too easy to destroy your every bullshit partisan post with FACTS and TRUTH.

That's why you have a "credibility problem!"

Oh No!

Zandar said...

Umm...you do see this paragraph in that article, the one that reads:

"Public health groups pushed for the language on fundraisers, which encourages the secretary of Agriculture to allow them only if they are infrequent. The language is broad enough that a president's administration could even ban bake sales, but Secretary Tom Vilsack signaled in a letter to House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-Calif., this week that he does not intend to do that. The USDA has a year to write rules that decide how frequent is infrequent."

But of course you ignore the "facts and truth" that you can't use to attack me.

You're pretty damned sad.

Zandar's Credibility Problem said...

"But of course you ignore the "facts and truth" that you can't use to attack me."

You've never done that yourself no sir!

You're a joke. Pwned again!

Oh No!

Zandar said...

The difference of course is I admitted that mistake.

You on the other hand are still a troll, and always will be.

Next.

Zandar's Credibility Problem said...

Spoken like somebody with A LYING PROBLEM!

A TRUTH PROBLEM!

A CREDIBILITY PROBLEM!

You think anyone's going to take you seriously when you can't TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH?

Bye, blog!

Oh No!

Zandar said...

Bye, blog?

Oh, so you're leaving? See ya!

StarStorm said...

No, he's using his MIGHTY CREDIBLE PENIS to shut your blog down. Or something like that.

No idea, honestly.

SteveAR said...

Except that the whole "regulate bake sale" thing is...surprise! A complete load of crap.

No it isn't. The only thing that is a load of crap is lefties claiming otherwise. Media Matters does a great job of lying about this:

Maryland State Senator David Harrington responded to Kilmeade's question about a "ban on bake sales" by pointing out that while the bill does "authorize the Secretary of Agriculture to set new regulations that provide [children] healthy choices... during their lunches," the bill's regulations "do not extend" to bake sales "outside of school hours...at basketball games, football games, clubs."

This is a lie. As linked to by Media Matters, the AP had a piece that said this:

Public health groups pushed for the language on fundraisers, which encourages the secretary [sic] of Agriculture to allow them only if they are infrequent. The language is broad enough that a president's administration could even ban bake sales, but Secretary Tom Vilsack signaled in a letter...that he does not intend to do that.

So the new law is written such that the federal government can regulate them. Even though Vilsack says he won't, the law states that it can be done. Naturally, neither Media Matters nor you will acknowledge this since neither one of you won't say anything other than what your Democratic masters tell you.

Would the new food safety law eliminate dangers in the food supply? No. Would it reduce them? Yes.

Considering your ability to deliberately misstate what Democrats put into their laws, I'm not getting any "warm and fuzzies" about believing you here.

SteveAR said...

But you prove my point that you're nothing but a sad little Republitroll by attacking the first lady for wanting to see healthier American kids. How awful of her...

I didn't attack her for that at all. I attacked the law she wanted put in place. She didn't write it or have any vote on its passage.

But I notice that you don't even attempt to address the fact that Senate staffers, especially the lawyers, are morons by not telling their bosses, the Senators, that there was an obvious Constitutional problem with the original bill. It is also quite obvious that conservatives were right when they said Senators, again, especially the lawyers, don't read bills. You'll also notice I didn't attack only Democrats for this fiasco since there were plenty of Republicans who voted for the original bill. But you only hypocritically attack Republicans.

Zandar said...

Yes, it was stupid of them. Yes, some of these staffers probably deserve to lose their jobs and I expect they will.

It doesn't change the fact we have 50 plus year old legislation dealing with 21st century food system problems, and when Democrats tried to fix them, Republicans blocked it.

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